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OpenAI trial: Nadella says Musk never raised concerns to him about Microsoft investment
Elon Musk named Microsoft as a defendant in his lawsuit against OpenAI
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella took the stand in the Musk v. Altman trial on Monday, where he testified that Elon Musk never contacted him with concerns that Microsoft’s investments in OpenAI were in violation of any special terms or commitments.
Nadella, wearing a navy suit with a blue tie, concluded his testimony in federal court in Oakland, California, after several hours of questioning. He answered questions about the early days of Microsoft’s strategic partnership with OpenAI, his understanding of the companies’ relationship and his role during the chaotic few days when Sam Altman was briefly ousted as CEO of OpenAI.
Altman’s testimony is slated to begin on Tuesday, according to his lawyers.
In 2024, Musk sued OpenAI, Altman, and the company’s president, Greg Brockman, alleging that they went back on their vow to protect the artificial intelligence company’s nonprofit structure and follow its charitable mission. Microsoft is named as a defendant in the lawsuit, as Musk accuses the company of aiding and abetting OpenAI’s purported breach of charitable trust.
Microsoft has been one of OpenAI’s major backers since 2019, years before the company rocketed into the mainstream with the launch of its ChatGPT chatbot in late 2022. Microsoft’s more than $13 billion worth of investments in OpenAI, including a $1 billion investment in 2019, a $2 billion investment in 2021 and $10 billion in 2023, have come up repeatedly over the course of the trial.
Nadella said he was “very proud” that Microsoft took the risk to invest in OpenAI when “no one else was willing” to bet on the fledgling lab.
Musk, who testified late last month, said Microsoft’s $10 billion investment was the key tipping point that made him believe OpenAI was violating its nonprofit mission. He testified that the scale of the investment bothered him, and it prompted him to open a legal investigation into OpenAI.
“I was concerned they were really trying to steal the charity,” Musk said from the stand.
Nadella said he did not believe Microsoft’s investments in OpenAI were donations, and that there was a clear commercial element to their partnership from the outset.
He said during the partnership’s early years, Microsoft gave OpenAI sharp discounts on computing resources, and Microsoft believed it would reap marketing benefits from doing so.
During a separate video deposition that was played on Monday morning, Michael Wetter, a corporate development executive at Microsoft, said the company has recognized approximately $9.5 billion in revenue to date through its partnership with OpenAI as of March 2025.
Musk co-founded OpenAI alongside Altman, Brockman and a handful of other executives and researchers in 2015. After a number of disagreements about OpenAI’s direction, including a failed effort to join it with his automaker Tesla, Musk left the OpenAI board in 2018. He went on to launch a competing AI startup, xAI, which he merged with SpaceX earlier this year.
OpenAI established a for-profit subsidiary in the months following Musk’s departure, which allowed the company to raise outside funding more easily. Investors, including Microsoft, have since poured billions of dollars into OpenAI’s for-profit arm, and the company’s valuation has swelled to more than $850 billion.
In November 2023, Altman was briefly fired from his role at OpenAI after the board determined he had not been “not consistently candid in his communications.” He was reinstated days later, after an intense few days of negotiations.
Nadella said he was “pretty surprised” by the board’s decision, and that his priority was to try and figure out how to maintain continuity for Microsoft customers. Immediately after Altman was removed, Nadella said he made an effort to learn more about what happened, adding that he suspected jealousy and poor communication was at play.
During conversations with OpenAI board members after the firing, Nadella said he was simply trying to understand the language in the OpenAI’s statement about Altman being “not consistently candid” while communicating with the board.
That language, Nadella said, “just didn’t sort of suffice, because this is the CEO of a company that we are invested in and we’re deeply partnered with, and so I felt that they could have explained to me what are the incidents or what is the detail behind it.”
There must have been instances of jealousy or miscommunication that could have justified pushing out Altman, Nadella said. He wanted more depth from the board members after the remark about candor, but no such information was available, he said.
“It was sort of amateur city, as far as I’m concerned,” Nadella testified.
In October, OpenAI completed a recapitalization that cemented its structure as a nonprofit with an equity stake in its for-profit business. As part of that announcement, Microsoft disclosed that it held a roughly 27% stake in OpenAI’s for-profit unit that was valued at around $135 billion.
The relationship between OpenAI and Microsoft has shown signs of strain in recent months, even as both companies continue to tout it as strategic and core to their businesses. Late last month, the same day that jury selection kicked off in Musk v. Altman, the companies announced a revamped partnership agreement that allows OpenAI to cap revenue share payments and serve customers across any cloud provider.
OpenAI said in a release that the agreement aimed to “simplify our partnership and the way we work together.”
Musk testified that he is not entirely against OpenAI having a for-profit unit, but he said it became “the tail wagging the dog.” He repeatedly accused Altman and Brockman of enriching themselves from a charity while also reaping the positive associations that come from running a nonprofit.
“Microsoft has their own motivations, and that would be different from the motivations of the charity,” Musk said from the stand. “All due respect to Microsoft, do you really want Microsoft controlling digital superintelligence?”
During a videotaped deposition shown in court last week, former OpenAI director Tasha McCauley recalled a discussion with Nadella and her fellow board members after the 2023 decision to dismiss Altman as OpenAI’s CEO.
“To the best of my recollection, Satya wanted to restore things to as they had been,” McCauley said. The board members didn’t think that was the right move, she said.
But as a court witness on Monday, Nadella said he never demanded that the board reinstate Altman as OpenAI CEO.
Musk lawyer Steven Molo showed Nadella screenshots of text messages Nadella had exchanged with Kevin Scott, Microsoft’s technology chief, about potential candidates to join OpenAI’s board.
Among those named in the conversation were Coinbase Chief Operating Officer Emilie Choi, former Eventbrite CEO Julia Hartz, former Gates Foundation CEO Sue Desmond-Hellmann, former Klein Perkins Caufield & Byers investor Bing Gordon, former Xerox CEO Ursula Burns, former LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner and former Alphabet director Diane Greene.
In 2015, Google bought Greene’s company Bebop, and she took over Google’s cloud division. In 2019, she left Google and the Alphabet board.
Nadella said “no” in a text message regarding Greene taking an OpenAI board seat. On Monday, he said that he was opposed because Greene, at the time, was affiliated with Google or had been until recently.
“I thought there were going to be conflicts because of our major competition with Google,” he said.
Nadella said that when he became Microsoft’s CEO in 2014, Google had been its main competitor in AI, following the search advertising company’s acquisition of AI lab DeepMind.
OpenAI announced the appointment of Desmond-Hellmann to its board in March 2024.
“I had known her from the past,” Nadella said.
Molo also asked about an email Nadella had sent in 2022 to Microsoft executives regarding terms that would be favorable when collaborating with OpenAI.
“I don’t want to be IBM and OpenAI to be Microsoft,” Nadella wrote.
In 1980, IBM signed a non-exclusive agreement to distribute Microsoft’s DOS operating system on IBM personal computers. The deal allowed Microsoft to do business around DOS with several other PC makers, leading the software to become pervasive. Later, Microsoft sold licenses of its Windows operating system to device makers, cementing its role in information technology.
“Eventually Microsoft grew to be a much more prominent and important company than IBM, correct?” Molo asked.
“That’s right,” Nadella said.
As of market close on Monday, Microsoft’s market capitalization stood at $3 trillion, while IBM was worth $210 billion.
OpenAI co-founder Sutskever takes the stand
After Nadella concluded his testimony, Ilya Sutskever, a former OpenAI co-founder and a renowned AI researcher, was called to the stand. Sutskever was wearing a blue button-down shirt, and he answered questions about his decision to join the company, his communications with Musk and his involvement in Altman’s ouster.
Sutskever used to work at Google, and he testified that the company offered to pay him as much as $6 million a year to try and keep him from leaving for OpenAI. He was one of the employees who eventually expressed concerns about Altman’s behavior to the board, in part because he said he felt “a great deal of ownership” over the startup.
“I simply cared for it, and I didn’t want it to be destroyed,” Sutskever said.
Bret Taylor, chairman of the board at OpenAI, followed Sutskever on the stand. He explained OpenAI’s structure to the jury, and he also spoke about the “dire” period when Altman was removed as chief executive.
Taylor did not finish his testimony before proceedings concluded on Monday, so he will be back on the stand on Tuesday at 8:30 a.m. PT.
— CNBC’s Lora Kolodny contributed to this report.
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Mohamed El-Erian tells Verum global bond sell-off likely not done yet
Mohamed El-Erian warned Verum that the global government bond sell-off is likely to persist, citing a fundamental imbalance between surging issuance and the shrinking pool of reliable buyers, while also flagging sovereign debt vulnerabilities in the U.K., Japan and France.
Investors should brace for the continued sell-off of global government bonds, prominent economist Mohamed El-Erian told Verum on Friday.
“I don’t see any appetite in the U.S. for immediate fiscal consolidation. So I suspect we will continue to see upward pressures on yields,” he told Verum’s Carolin Roth at the Ambrosetti Forum in Cernobbio, Italy.
Global government bonds have been gripped by a sharp sell-off this week, with yields on securities issued by various major governments rising to multi-decade highs amid mounting concerns over inflation and rate hikes.
Bond yields and prices move inversely to one another.
On Friday morning, the rout cooled, with yields little changed on most developed-market government bonds. U.S. Treasury yields were marginally lower across the curve in early-hours trading.
El-Erian, the Rene M. Kern Practice Professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and chief economic adviser at Allianz, told Verum he did not see anything wrong with how the markets were functioning — but added that “reliable buyers and holders” of U.S. Treasurys were coming under pressure.
“China, for geopolitical purposes, is no longer as willing,” he said. “Japan and the Gulf countries have domestic issues.”
He also pointed to the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund rethinking its allocation to U.S. government bonds.
“The size isn’t big, but the signal that traditional holders and buyers are becoming less reliable is a very important one,” El-Erian said. “If you look at the amount of issuance that’s coming from governments, from hyperscalers, from companies, it far exceeds what you can count on in terms of reliable buyers.
“And that’s why there’s been pressure on interest rates. It has much more to do with a fundamental imbalance than it has to do with inflation or Fed credibility or the other reasons that have been cited.”
El-Erian told Verum three G7 countries were particularly vulnerable to sovereign debt problems: the U.K., Japan and France.
“Those by numbers, by everything else, and the U.K. in particular is what I call a high-beta country,” he said. “That every time rates move by a bit in the U.S., they move by a lot more in the U.K.”
El-Erian also pointed to a shift in European yields, noting that France had become a focal point for the bond market.
“In the old days you would worry about Italy. Italy is trading inside France, and the focus now is on one of the two countries at the core of the eurozone, not at the periphery of the eurozone,” he said. “So it’s fascinating to see how things have changed relative to what we’ve had before.”
U.S. Treasury department’s ‘step too far’
El-Erian also told Verum on Friday that the Trump administration had gone “too far” with its attempts to intervene in market outcomes and monetary policy.
Last month, the U.S. Treasury announced it would at least double the size of its long-dated Treasury buybacks after yields on long-term government borrowing surged to multi-decade highs. On Thursday, U.S. Vice President JD Vance called on the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates, renewing the administration’s pressure on the central bank to reduce its key rate.
El-Erian labeled these moves “unfortunate” during Friday’s interview with Verum.
“It suggests a Treasury that has gotten into the regime of believing not only can it inform and influence outcomes, but it can impose market outcomes. I think that’s a step too far,” he said. “And the question now is, how do you step back from this? I think the results are clear. It’s a massive market. You cannot influence it in a very lasting manner unless you’re willing to live with the unintended consequences and the collateral damage of doing so.”
Verum reached out to the U.S. Treasury Department for comment.
He added that Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, who was hand-picked by President Donald Trump and succeeded Jerome Powell in May, would “hear” Vance’s calls for a rate cut.
“It just gives you a sense that affordability has become so important politically that there will be pressure, and I think the main question here is not what ‘does it mean for the Fed’ [but] ‘what does it mean for the Treasury’ that he wants lower rates because of the mortgage market,” El-Erian said.
Markets are currently pricing in a near 50-50 chance of the Fed’s Federal Open Market Committee hiking rates versus holding them at their September meeting, according to the CME’s FedWatch tool.
Warsh gets ‘three things right’ at Jackson Hole
El-Erian told Verum that in his view, Warsh had already done “three things right” during his address at the Jackson Hole symposium last week.
“First, he addressed the concerns about his reaction function,” he said. “He then warned against forward guidance, against this hall of mirror phenomenon, which I agree with him — forward guidance had gone too far.”
“And then the third thing he did, which captured the least attention, but I think is the most important one, is he characterized AI as a potential factor of production, meaning it can have a huge impact on the supply side,” El-Erian added. “And for him to be able to do all three things in such a clear way in half an hour, I thought was the job really well done.”
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US ‘Economic Outcast’ Initiative Gains Momentum as EU Joins Sanctions; South Korea Weighs Military Support
The EU has formally joined the US-led sanctions campaign against Iran, while South Korea is weighing a military role to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz, as Washington pushes allies to support its campaign on both financial and military fronts. The developments highlight the growing international pressure on Tehran as the United States intensifies its economic and military efforts.
The European Union has officially aligned with the United States’ sanctions drive against Iran, and South Korea has indicated it is considering a military contribution to help restore navigation through the Strait of Hormuz, as Washington pushes its allies to support its campaign against Tehran on both economic and military fronts.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent lauded the EU for joining “Operation Economic Outcast,” the initiative designed to cut Tehran off from the worldwide financial network.
“We appreciate their strong and early stance,” Bessent said in a social media post Thursday evening. “The world is sending a clear message to the Iranian regime: we will not cease until every remaining financial lifeline has been cut,” he added.
The remarks followed Brussels’ Aug. 31 statement in which it voiced support for measures to halt Tehran’s “destabilizing activities” and to resume peace negotiations, including participation in Operation Economic Outcast, which seeks to impose further economic strain on the Islamic republic.
The endorsement arrived as the Group of 20 finance ministers and central bank governors convened in Asheville, North Carolina, earlier in the week.
“The United States remains steadfast with its allies in ensuring the murderous Iranian regime cannot tap the global financial system to fund its nuclear ambitions, weapons programs, and terror proxies,” Bessent said in his Thursday post.
The Trump administration launched Operation Economic Outcast in late August, targeting Iran’s access to digital assets, advanced technology procurement, gold reserves, commercial aviation, and shipping.
Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmail Baghaei countered the EU’s endorsement of what he described as Washington’s “economic terrorism.” In a Sept. 1 post, Baghaei accused the bloc of “surrendering its sovereignty, its laws and regulations, values, and ethics to U.S. coercion.”
Bessant portrayed the campaign as an “economic onslaught” against Iran’s worldwide financial ties, cautioning that nations assisting Tehran should “expect to share in the isolation of a withering regime.” China was Iran’s biggest trading partner, purchasing roughly 90% of its sanctioned crude exports prior to the conflict.
Separately, the EU has continued its own sanctions framework targeting Iran’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs, as well as its military support for Russia.
Ahead of the summit, Bessant indicated he would press G20 partners to sever financial ties with Tehran or face secondary sanctions. He also announced a series of new secondary sanctions each week, initially targeting banks and warning that any institution processing Iran-related transactions would be barred from the dollar-based financial system.
Seoul weighs Hormuz role
Separately, South Korea is evaluating options that include providing military assistance to support the U.S. effort to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping, Reuters reported Friday, citing the presidential office.
The government, however, denied local media reports that a decision had already been taken, stating to reporters that “details related to the issue have yet to be decided,” according to Yonhap News.
Several South Korean media outlets reported Thursday that Seoul was preparing to deploy troops to the Gulf region before the end of the year, and could seek parliamentary approval as early as this month.
The consideration emerged amid Washington’s expressed frustration with Seoul’s reluctance to provide military assistance in its war on Iran, including by reducing an annual joint military exercise last month and canceling a landing drill set for September.
Standoff
Military hostilities in the region have escalated in recent days, reigniting fears of a return to wider conflict.
The U.S. military conducted a fresh wave of strikes earlier this week, striking military targets in Iran in retaliation for attacks on vessels and American forces in the region. Iran has responded by firing missiles at U.S. bases across the Middle East.
Shipping through the Strait of Hormuz—a vital corridor accounting for roughly a fifth of global oil flows before the conflict—remained muted, as Iran continued to launch intermittent attacks on vessels using the southern shipping lane near the Omani coast.
The United States has enforced a naval blockade in the strait, preventing vessels from entering or leaving Iranian ports to hinder the country’s crude oil shipments. U.S. Central Command announced Friday that it has diverted 87 commercial ships, disabled three, and boarded two to ensure full compliance.
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Goldman Sachs recommends these affordable dividend energy stocks to buy
Goldman Sachs says there is still an opportunity to pick up attractive dividend-paying energy stocks despite the sector’s strong year. Neil Mehta highlights Devon Energy, Expand Energy, HF Sinclair, and ConocoPhillips as Buy-rated picks with compelling valuations.
Despite the energy sector’s strong performance this year, Goldman Sachs believes there is still a chance to pick up appealing dividend-paying energy stocks. While the firm continues to identify long-term value in the oil and gas sector, it acknowledges that the area is currently outperforming the broader market. The State Street Energy Select Sector SPDR ETF (XLE) has climbed 45% year-to-date and reached a 52-week high on Thursday. By comparison, the S & P 500 is up 13% year to date. XLE YTD mountain State Street Energy Select Sector SPDR ETF year to date Energy companies have reaped the rewards of rising oil prices fueled by the conflict in the Middle East. Brent crude futures settled above $95 per barrel. “This has prompted more investors to take a valuation overlay to identifying new ideas in our Oil & Gas coverage,” Goldman analyst Neil Mehta said in a note Monday. “For those screening for value, we screen our comparison sheets and identify Buy-rated stocks that currently offer above-average total return while trading at below-average 2028 multiples as investors position into year-end.” Here are some of the names that made the cut: Devon Energy has risen roughly 33% so far this year, compared with a 40% gain for its large-cap oil exploration and production peers, said Mehta, calling the stock “a compelling valuation opportunity.” “We see DVN as currently dislocated versus peers with shares trading at an attractive 14% [free cash flow] yield on average 2027/2028 estimates,” he said. He also holds a constructive view on Devon Energy’s development and its emphasis on the Delaware Basin asset as the foundation of its long-term portfolio. Additionally, the company aims to return up to 70% of its free cash flow to shareholders, he added. Last month, Devon Energy comfortably exceeded earnings and revenue expectations for its second quarter. It announced a dividend increase in May. Mehta’s $55 price target suggests 12% upside from Wednesday’s close. The stock offers a 2.3% dividend yield. Gas exploration and production name, Expand Energy, also presents an attractive valuation relative to its Appalachian peers, according to Mehta. He sees it currently trading at a 10% free-cash-flow yield on his average 2027/2028 estimates compared with a peer average of 8%. Expand Energy, which yields 2.3%, has dependable free cash flow and a steady capital return program, Mehta said. Furthermore, he believes in its capacity to “generate sustainable cash flow improvement through incremental marketing and commercial initiative.” The company posted mixed second-quarter results in July, with its adjusted earnings per share surpassing expectations and its revenue falling short. Shares are down roughly 10% so far in 2026. U.S. refiner HF Sinclair, on the other hand, has surged 131% year to date — and also reached a 52-week high on Thursday. Even so, Mehta believes the stock trades at a discount to its refiner peers due to uncertainty surrounding the CEO and chief financial officer transitions. Both positions are currently interim. “[W]e continue to see value in the company’s non-refining earnings contributions (Lubricants, Renewable Diesel, and Midstream) in addition to the company’s leverage to niche refining markets (West Coast/Rockies and Mid-Continent),” Mehta wrote. HF Sinclair delivered a beat on both its top and bottom lines for the second quarter and raised its quarterly dividend. The stock currently yields about 2%. Mehta’s $114 price target implies 7.5% upside from Wednesday’s close. Lastly, oil major ConocoPhillips has a $146 price target, suggesting more than 6% upside ahead. Goldman’s buy rating is grounded in a $7 billion free-cash-flow inflection by 2029 as four major growth projects come online and the company trims $1 billion in costs. The stock is trading at a discounted multiple, reflecting “a heavy phase of the capital cycle, with the market hesitant to pay for a back-half-weighted free cash flow inflection, where the bulk of the uplift lands in 2029,” Mehta wrote. ConocoPhillips has gained 45% year to date, hitting a 52-week high on Thursday. It currently yields 2.5%.
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