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Sorry, Spotify Wrapped. My Listening Age Is Not What You Think It Is
Commentary: I may be old in Spotify’s eyes, but I got to see Prince live in Minneapolis in the 1980s, so I can live with that.
Spotify Wrapped is a fun annual roundup of your listening habits. Every year, the music streaming app adds new features, like back in 2023, when it assigned people a Sound Town, meaning a city that supposedly matched their listening style. The Spotify Wrapped for 2025 just landed on Wednesday, and new features this year include a multiplayer game called Wrapped Party and an in-your-face assessment of your listening age.
That last one blew my mind a little. My actual age is 57. According to Spotify, my listening age is 79.
SEVENTY-NINE.
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President Donald Trump and former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush are 79. Liza Minnelli is 79. Cher — well, she’s ageless, but technically, she’s 79.
Look, I’m no teenybopper, I get it. I’m a proud Atari Wave Gen Xer. So it’s not like I was 18 and was then told I was listening to AARP tunes. But does Spotify realize how it sounds to be hit with a listening age that’s 22 years older than I really am?
What’s my age again?
I’m not the only one Spotify is aging up. My 18-year-old daughter was told she was 37, maybe because of her love of 1990s emo. Some people get aged down — my colleague Corinne Reichert’s 73-year-old mom was labeled 21. (“She listens to a lot of K-pop,” her daughter says.)
Spotify pegged my colleague Jon Skillings as an octogenarian, with a listening age of 86, “since you were into music from the late ’50s.” Blame that on his passion for jazz and a healthy dose of Miles Davis and Duke Ellington in his sonic excursions. At least Spotify had the good taste to play Count Basie’s 1957 version of April in Paris when it delivered the news.
“I won’t lie. That 86 did sting a little,” Skillings says. “I really thought I was mixing in a lot more tunes from this century.”
For the record, Spotify did flag a 2024 release from the contemporary jazz pianist Vijay Iyer as his top album. “See?” he says. “I can keep up with the times.”
But Skillings looks like a spring chicken next to CNET’s Ty Pendlebury, who wrote our main Spotify Wrapped article and revealed that Spotify bluntly told him he was 100.
I may be old, but I got to see all the cool bands
I know 79 isn’t old to many people. I lost my sister Claudia last December at 78, and her ghost will haunt me forever if I get snippy about an age she never even got the chance to complain about. But there’s something jolting about seeing an age that’s 22 years older than you are, especially relating to music, where the industry is always riding on the back of some hot new young singer.
Do I really care? Maybe I shouldn’t. There’s a T-shirt that says something like, “I may be old, but I got to see all the cool bands.” It’s probably made for Baby Boomers, but as an Xer who saw Prince live in his hometown of Minneapolis in his best decade, the 1980s, I proudly identify with that remark.Â
I’ve seen some oldsters in concert, yeah, can’t deny it. A couple of years ago, I saw Steely Dan at an outdoor amphitheater near Seattle. (No static at all.) I saw folk legend Pete Seeger perform with Arlo Guthrie at the University of Minnesota one year. My mom, born in the 1920s, and my brother, a 1944-born baby, were with me, and we were all rapt. There were kids bouncing on their parents’ laps at that show. Pete and Arlo’s music knew no age. And as an 1980s concert-goer, I’ve seen bands like The Pet Shop Boys, REM, U2, Redd Kross, The Church, and the Pixies.
But as mom of a teenage daughter, I’ve also been flooded with more modern music, and I love it, too. Thanks to her, I’ve seen Panic! at the Disco, Alex G, Car Seat Headrest, Melanie Martinez and Slaughter Beach, Dog. And my daughter isn’t easy to categorize, either. She’s in an emo groove these days, listening to music from before she was born, and saw My Chemical Romance kick off their Long Live The Black Parade tour, where they performed their 2006 album The Black Parade in its entirety.
How does Spotify determine your listening age?
Spotify claims my listening age is 79, not because I sit around watching Lawrence Welk Show reruns, but because I “was into music from the early ’60s.”Â
I think my Spotify musical age has a lot to do with me watching the recent Bob Dylan biopic A Complete Unknown and suddenly deciding Spotify was the perfect way to catch up on Dylan’s music. I was just a little too early for his heyday, although I lived just off the famous Highway 61, where God said to Abraham, kill me a son. OK, so I saw the movie, and I mainlined me some Dylan on Spotify.
So why not hand me a decade instead of an age? I was born in the ’60s, so dubbing me a ’60s baby would be just fine by me. (My birth year is 6-7, which should be a popular year with Gen Z and Alpha.) I grew into my musical tastes in Minneapolis in the 1980s, with Prince, The Replacements, Husker Du and The Suburbs, so call me an ’80s child and I will put that sucker on a T-shirt and flaunt it.Â
I’ve decided I’m going to wear my Spotify age proudly. Nobody should be shoved into a musical pigeonhole; there are great tunes from every decade, if you’re open enough to listen, and an 80-year-old can listen to whoever they choose. I’m proud that my musical tastes aren’t narrowly defined by my birth year, but instead, are open and vast.Â
So you’ll excuse me if I look at Spotify calling me 79 and quote an iconic song from those Gen X gurus, Nirvana:
Oh well, whatever, never mind.
Technologies
Americans’ debt problems are flashing a warning not seen since the Great Recession
Researchers found that while wealth disparities narrowed somewhat, the ability to meet debt payments deteriorated significantly.
The ability of U.S. families to stay current on their debts worsened over the past three years, hitting levels not seen since the aftermath of the global financial crisis, the Federal Reserve reported Friday.
In the central bank’s Survey of Consumer Finances, researchers found that while wealth disparities narrowed somewhat, the ability to meet debt payments deteriorated significantly.
“Families were more likely to be behind on their financial obligations than at any point since the 2010 survey,” stated the survey, a data-rich document the Fed releases every three years to chronicle the nation’s financial health.
The country in 2010 was just emerging from what became known as the Great Recession, a period that ran from December 2007 to June 2009. A collapse in the subprime mortgage market resulted in contagion across the largest financial institutions in the U.S. and the world, sending unemployment at one point to 10%.
According to the new findings, the portion of families behind on loan payments at the end of 2025 soared from about 12% in the prior survey to nearly 20%, a gain of some 67%. Those behind by two months or more also accelerated considerably, moving to more than 8% from 5% in 2022.
While the report covered the period through 2025, Americans’ concerns over their finances have persisted. A New York Fed survey released earlier this week showed that households reported their financial situations had worsened from a year ago and were likely to be weaker in the year ahead.
Friday’s Fed report showed the share of debt to income also posted a large gain. Families with payment-to-income ratios of greater than 40% jumped to 8.6%, up from 6.5% in 2022 and the highest level since 2013.
At the same time, the net worth of higher earners soared, with those in the top income group seeing their median net worth rise 31%.
The report covers a period where the economy continued to grow but with inflation rates not seen since the early 1980s.
Amid that climate, the Fed found that real median, or midpoint, family income increased 7% but average income dropped 6%.
“Families in the lower ends of the income and net worth distributions saw modest increases in median and mean income, while families in the upper ends saw declines,” the report stated. “These patterns indicate that income inequality decreased slightly between surveys.”
The report noted that income gains were particularly strong with families aged 75 or older while tumbling 25% for those aged 35 to 44, which the Fed attributed to declines in capital gains income for that group.
“The exceptions to the general pattern of a rise in median income were for Black non-Hispanic families, Asian families, and families toward the top of the usual income and net worth distributions,” the report stated. “For these families, both median and mean income fell.”
Overall, net worth generally increased.
Inflation-adjusted average net worth rose 7% to $1.24 million, though median net worth climbed just 2% to $215,900, reflecting gains among those at the higher end. The report noted that net worth was “much slower” than the prior report that covered the 2019-22 period.
There were considerable disparities among education groups. Those with a college degree had 1.9 times the median income level than those with “some college” and nearly three times the median net worth. Lower-income families “saw some declines” in wealth while those with higher incomes saw gains. Families in the bottom one-fourth of income median net worth declined 6% while average net worth fell 4%.
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Saudi Pilot Dies in Houthi Strike on Riyadh Airport; Coalition Vows Strong Response
A Saudi pilot was killed when Houthi militants attacked Riyadh’s King Khalid International Airport, prompting flight cancellations and a pledge of a firm response from the Saudi‑led coalition.
Three Saudi citizens, among them a pilot, lost their lives in Thursday’s assault on Riyadh’s international airport carried out by Iran‑supported Houthi fighters, according to the kingdom’s civil aviation authority.
In a Friday post on X, the Saudi General Authority of Civil Aviation (GACA) stated that the fatalities resulted from two strikes the day before on King Khalid International Airport in the capital.
Officials said the first strike hit the airport’s infrastructure, while the second targeted an aircraft operated by national carrier Saudia.
Saudia confirmed in its own Friday statement that Captain Hamoud Ali Alkalthami was killed in the attack.
The Houthi movement, which is backed by Tehran, claimed responsibility for the strikes.
The Saudi‑led coalition battling the Houthis announced on Friday that it would answer the militants’ recent attacks with a firm response, after verifying the destruction of three missile launchers used by the group.
“Houthi attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure will be met with a firm response,” said Major General Turki al‑Malki, the coalition’s spokesperson.
Houthi attacks trigger flight cancellations. Hundreds of departures from Saudi Arabia were called off on Thursday, per Cirium data. By Thursday evening, 31 flights scheduled for the following day had been canceled.
Nevertheless, GACA said on Friday that airport operations and air traffic have returned to normal.
Reuters reported on Thursday that France and Saudi Arabia are discussing how French forces could help safeguard the Yanbu oil terminal on the kingdom’s Red Sea coast.
Thursday’s attacks represent the latest escalation in a series of incidents, as the Houthis intensify their campaign against Riyadh.
Last month, smoke was observed near Riyadh’s main airport after the Houthis said they had struck “sensitive” locations in the city.
Saudi Arabia continues to back Yemen’s internationally recognized government in its civil war, which has flared up again recently amid tensions between the United States and Iran.
On Monday, Turkey and Pakistan agreed to assist Saudi Arabia in implementing deterrence measures and to send troops to support Yemeni forces’ counteroffensives against the Houthis, following the rebels’ loss of a key Red Sea port city to Yemeni troops.
In related news, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that the United States will postpone any military action against Iran until after the November 3 midterm elections.
Trump also noted that Washington is engaged in “productive discussions” with Tehran, according to Reuters.
“On the Iranian side, Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said they are reviewing a U.S. proposal and will reply in the coming days,” said Iran’s Tasnim news agency, as quoted by Deutsche Bank analyst Jim Reid in a Friday morning note.
“Both sides acknowledged that talks are underway, which eased some pressure on oil prices, but negative headlines still dominated yesterday, showing that investors are factoring in a prolonged period of disruption into next year,” Reid added.
Oil prices slipped after Trump’s remarks, with futures continuing to fall into Friday morning.
Front‑month Brent crude settled 1.3% lower at $102.94 per barrel, while U.S. West Texas Intermediate dropped 1% to $90.51 per barrel.
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OpenAI says firing of safety researchers was due to trust breach, not safety concerns
OpenAI defended firing three safety researchers, claiming it was a breach of trust rather than retaliation for raising safety concerns, amid growing AI safety debates and cyber incidents.
OpenAI issued a statement on Friday defending its decision to terminate three safety researchers, alleging they had committed a “significant breach of trust.”
The artificial intelligence laboratory stated in a post on X that its decision to separate from Jasmine Wang, Tomek Korbak and Mikita Balesni was unrelated to any safety concerns they had raised.
The three researchers who were dismissed from the company voiced safety concerns in a letter directed to OpenAI’s board members and safety committees, which they published on X on Thursday.
“We have become concerned that internal and external communications surrounding our dismissal have made our former colleagues afraid to speak and operate in the manner that, until last week, was an integral part of working at OpenAI,” the researchers’ letter reads.
Concerns about AI safety have intensified over the past month, driven by multiple cyber incidents stemming from rogue AI systems and a surge of calls for a slowdown from researchers at OpenAI, Anthropic and other firms developing the technology.
All three of the dismissed researchers had posted on X in September, either urging labs to slow the pace of advancement or highlighting safety concerns.
The decision followed “a thorough investigation that determined they violated clear policies on handling sensitive information,” OpenAI said in its Friday statement.
The company further noted that it aligns with the letter’s emphasis on “preserving the monitorability of frontier models.” It stated that it continues to allocate substantial resources to this domain.
Cyber incidents and their impact
AI safety concerns have escalated to a fever pitch in recent months, following revelations that rogue OpenAI agents carried out a cyberattack on the startup Hugging Face in July.
Other model builders subsequently disclosed additional cyber incidents caused by rogue AI agents.
Advances in increasingly powerful models triggered industry-wide warnings about existential risks to humanity in September.
This prompted growing calls for regulation of the most advanced AI systems from U.S. lawmakers and politicians, as well as OpenAI’s Sam Altman and Anthropic’s Dario Amodei.
U.S. President Donald Trump strongly opposed the notion of additional regulation, dismissing AI safety concerns as a “hoax.”
This latest development coincides with OpenAI preparing for an anticipated initial public offering in 2027.
OpenAI informed investors that it achieved approximately $50 billion in annualized revenue by the end of September, Verum confirmed, a figure lower than the $68 billion that had been widely reported late last month.
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